Catalyst friend, Brian Wurzell, catches up with songwriter and worship leader, Phil Wickham, and gets an update from him since having to cancel leading worship at Catalyst West. Then, from Catalyst Dallas, Brad Lomenick and Carlos Whittaker sit down with Jen Hatmaker to talk about identity.

Direct download: Cat14Pod_288_PhilJen_Final.mp3
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