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Sep 22, 2025

Michelle Ockers is joined by Ben Campbell, CEO of the Australian Institute of Training and Development, and organisational capability expert Lisa Elias to discuss the development of AITD’s first-ever L&D Capability Framework. In addition to being our podcast host, Michelle was the Project Lead on this community-driven initiative, and offers insight into how the project came to life, its collaborative design process, and what it offers the Australian L&D profession. The trio explores the framework’s purpose, structure and practical applications for individuals, teams and organisations. Learn how it establishes a common language for capability and raises the bar for L&D practice across the country.

Host: Michelle Ockers

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