Oct 15, 2025
How can shepherding pastors
lead effectively in vision and strategy? In this
episode of the Church Revitalization Podcast, Scott Ball and A.J.
Mathieu address a common challenge: pastors who excel in relational
and pastoral care but feel less confident when it comes to vision
and strategy. They share practical steps for leaning into
strengths, building balanced teams, and leading with humility while
still guiding the church toward God’s future.
Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are church consultants with The
Malphurs Group, equipping churches worldwide to grow healthier
through strategic planning, leadership development, and
revitalization. Whether you naturally lean toward shepherding or
strategy, you’ll find encouragement and tools to lead with
confidence.
In this episode:
[03:42] Recognizing your strengths and weaknesses without self-doubt
[08:09] Why building a complementary team is essential for balance
[11:01] How to live your role and lean into your pastoral strengths
[13:57] Avoiding pride and empowering others to lead alongside you
[15:33] Lessons from Moses and the importance of
humility in leadership
Links & Resources:
Healthy Churches Toolkit: https://healthychurchestoolkit.com
Episode Article: https://malphursgroup.com/312
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