May 21, 2025
Is your church overwhelmed by a maze of groups, classes, and ministries—or struggling to get people engaged at all? On this episode, we break down how to streamline your discipleship ministries for greater clarity and real spiritual growth.
Your hosts, Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu from The Malphurs Group, bring years of hands-on experience revitalizing churches. Each week, they share practical strategies for church leaders to create healthier, more effective ministries—no matter your church’s size or context.
In this episode:
[00:02:14] Announcement: New “Six Areas of Groups Ministry” Masterclass partnership (and why it matters)
[00:07:04] The real issue: Why variety confuses people and stalls engagement
[00:08:53] The program vs. process mindset (and how to shift gears)
[00:12:25] Building a clear, 3-5 step discipleship pathway—what primary and secondary ministries are (and aren’t)
[00:26:31] Practical steps to combine, align, or sunset ministries for maximum impact
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