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The Church Revitalization Podcast


Jul 29, 2026

Is your church full of attendees but short on disciples? In episode 350 of the Church Revitalization Podcast, Scott and A.J. dig into one of the most common and quietly damaging patterns in church life: the consumerism cycle. They walk through three concrete red flags that signal your congregation may be consuming church rather than contributing to it, and then offer a practical framework for shifting the culture toward ownership and discipleship.

Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are the co-hosts of the Church Revitalization Podcast, produced by the Malphurs Group, a nonprofit ministry dedicated to helping churches across North America thrive. Scott and A.J. bring a mix of pastoral insight and practical strategy to each episode, making the show a go-to resource for pastors and church leaders navigating real challenges in ministry today.

  • [4:04] Red Flag 1: Preference-driven complaints as a sign of a consumer mindset
  • [7:02] Red Flag 2: Low volunteerism and the gap between attendance and participation
  • [9:36] Red Flag 3: Giving culture and what it reveals about congregational ownership
  • [15:43] Culture shift framework: Reframing belonging, language, and what your church asks of people
  • [19:20] Leveraging low-bar entry points to build high commitment over time

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