Host: Bob Furniss (without co-host Amos) Guest: Daniel Thomas, Informa Location: ICMI Conference Expo Floor
Guest Background
Daniel Thomas approaches contact center industry from a
research background
Surveys audiences and writes research reports
Has "front row seat" to industry transformation
Conducts the annual State of the Contact Center survey
About the State of the Contact Center Report
Comprehensive benchmark study surveying contact center
professionals
Covers multiple verticals including:
Training and skills
Compensation and salary
Technology use
Leadership perceptions
Strategy
Tracks year-over-year progress
Recent additions include AI and workforce training
questions
Key Surprising Findings
1. Contact Centers as Strategic Intelligence Hubs
Major shift: Contact centers increasingly
viewed as "strategic customer intelligence hubs" rather than cost
centers
Described as "customer intelligence and nervous system"
No other department has closer customer proximity or more
customer data
C-suite now acknowledges value with direct data funnels
informing executive decisions
2. AI Perceptions and Impact
72% believe AI will transform roles, not
replace them
Only ~25% think AI will lead to workforce reductions
AI expected to handle "level one, rote, monotonous, repetitive
work"
Agents will focus on:
Complex needs and edge cases
Soft skills: empathy, communication, problem solving, critical
thinking
90% of surveyed leaders believe humans necessary as AI
overseers
Gartner prediction: 40% of agentic AI projects will fail by
2027 (often due to neglecting human oversight)
Agent Evolution
Agents increasingly viewed as:
Consultants
Solutions architects
Higher-tier problem solvers
"White glove service" providers
Rising expectations due to AI support
Agents becoming intelligence providers to C-suite
More analytical roles: identifying trends, patterns, creating
intelligent summaries
Top AI Implementation Concerns
Customer resistance (top concern)
Data accuracy
Data privacy and security
Lack of proper AI governance
Workforce and Quality Management Insights
Workforce Models (Nearly Equal Three-Way Split)
In-office full time
Hybrid
Fully remote
Models remain transitional and subject to change
Increased scheduling flexibility critical for retention
Quality Focus Shift
Traditional metrics: CSAT, utilization, average handle
time
New priority: Agent experience rising in
importance
Recognition that internal customer experience drives external
customer experience
Customer Satisfaction Challenges
Current CSAT surveys often lack nuance
Can't distinguish between:
Poor agent performance vs. poor company policy
Single bad experience vs. overall satisfaction
Need for more qualitative feedback mechanisms
"Watermelon effect": High metrics but poor actual
experience
Channel Evolution
Significant jump from multi-channel to
omni-channel implementation
Growth in non-traditional channels:
Social media
SMS/text
Video
Technology enabling unified customer history across
channels
Key Takeaways
Successful organizations treat contact centers as "valuable
strategic sources of intelligence"
Organizations not recognizing this value are "dropping the
ball" and will "see the consequences"
Contact centers serve as the "hub" and "nervous system"
reaching everywhere in the organization
When no one knows the answer, they turn to the contact
center
Notable Quotes
"If your agents aren't excited about AI, then you actually
haven't communicated to them how enriching and transforming it
could be"
"Agents are increasingly going to play a role where they are
the eyes and the ears... providing the intelligence back to the
C-suite"
Contact centers as "the strongest data... the hub... the
nervous system that reaches in everywhere else"
About the Podcast
This is the public square for all things contact center. This is where the world’s best Call & Contact center professionals come to get better at delivering a great experience for customers.
Your contact center mentors - Amas Tenumah & Bob Furniss