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Experimental Honesty with Brian Curtis, Ph.D.

Sep 20, 2023

In this episode, Brian Curtis, PhD, DBSM speaks with Jordan Kugler, PhD.

Jordan is a licensed clinical psychologist with advanced training and specialization working with adults and adolescents who are experiencing post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), borderline personality disorder (BPD), major depressive disorder (MDD), and generalized anxiety disorder (GAD).

You can learn more about Jordan and his work by visiting Perspective Behavioral Health at