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Dive Deep, Climb High

Focusing on leadership in higher education, Mel Loizou asks her guests to share what leadership means to them. The Dive Deep Climb High podcast is fun, honest, and relatable. It enables you to dive deep into your role and the leader you are.

To climb high, unleashing the power and potential of you and those around you. With inspiring stories, practical tips, and a little bit of fishiness this show will help you realise that sometimes the apparently impossible is absolutely possible. 

Dive Deep. Climb High. Can Do Leadership in a World of Can’t.


Oct 18, 2022

As an openly gay woman, working in higher education, Carley shares her journey with us, the highs, and the lows. From ‘coming out’ at nineteen to being told by a colleague that she would have to try harder in London because she was gay, fat, and northern, Carley gives us her perspective on how we can create more inclusive environments, which allow people to bring their true selves to work every day.



“The LGBTQ+ community, we want you to ask questions, we want you to ask what that acronym means. I don’t have a clue what most of the acronyms mean because they’re forever changing, because they’re personal and they’re different for every single individual, so you’re probably not always going to get it right. But it’s okay to not get it right. Be open with people and ask them what they prefer to be called.”



Carley is the Student Experience Manager at the University of the Arts London. Originally from the north of England, she has worked within HE and charity sectors for 15 years supporting inclusivity in leadership and her roles.  She is also the Head of Events for Pride in London and has started her own LGBTQ+ events company championing positive individual relationships and community involvement.

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Mel is a Consultant, Coach, Facilitator, Speaker, Podcast Host & Mum. Specialising in leadership and change management in the Higher Education sector, Mel uses her Fish Climb Trees philosophy to help individuals, teams and organisations, shift from that place of believing they can’t, to one where they know they absolutely can.

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