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Dive Deep, Climb High

Focusing on leadership in higher education, Mel Loizou asks her guests to share what leadership means to them. The Dive Deep Climb High podcast is fun, honest, and relatable. It enables you to dive deep into your role and the leader you are.

To climb high, unleashing the power and potential of you and those around you. With inspiring stories, practical tips, and a little bit of fishiness this show will help you realise that sometimes the apparently impossible is absolutely possible. 

Dive Deep. Climb High. Can Do Leadership in a World of Can’t.


Nov 2, 2022

In this episode Donna shares with us her journey from solicitor to HR professional and development consultant before starting her own coaching business Odonata in 2017. We explore why she is so passionate about helping her clients burn bright rather than out and learn how, by taking just five minutes a day for ourselves, we can ensure burnout doesn’t take us off our feet completely.



“There's a principle in the Burn Bright programme that I call 'No is a complete sentence'. Unless we put ourselves first, nothing else matters If our health is not in good shape we can't be there for our loved ones, show up for our clients, our colleagues. We can't make the difference we want to make in the world. It starts with us. So, learn to say yes to you.”



Donna is on her own journey of discovery.  She is someone who has burnt out, someone who has faced several career crossroads, someone who struggles with perfectionism and that feeling of not being good enough.  Basically, the types of challenges so many of us face every day. Why is this relevant? Because she has faced all these challenges (and still does) and yet she now gets to do what she loves every day. She burns bright (not out) and so can you!

Donna has an extensive range of experience in Coaching, NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) Leadership & Management Development, MBTI, Talent Development, and workshop facilitation.  Donna is passionate about working with people who have reached that stage where they say, ‘enough is enough’ and they want to make a change for the better, they want to move forwards instead of staying stuck.  She now works with a growing number of clients, helping them to ‘Burn Bright’, not out!








Mel is a Consultant, Coach, Facilitator, Speaker, Podcast Host & Mum. Specialising in leadership and change management in the Higher Education sector, Mel uses her Fish Climb Trees philosophy to help individuals, teams and organisations, shift from that place of believing they can’t, to one where they know they absolutely can.

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