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Dive Deep, Climb High

Focusing on leadership in higher education, Mel Loizou asks her guests to share what leadership means to them. The Dive Deep Climb High podcast is fun, honest, and relatable. It enables you to dive deep into your role and the leader you are.

To climb high, unleashing the power and potential of you and those around you. With inspiring stories, practical tips, and a little bit of fishiness this show will help you realise that sometimes the apparently impossible is absolutely possible. 

Dive Deep. Climb High. Can Do Leadership in a World of Can’t.


Nov 23, 2022

In this episode, Mel dives deep into these recent podcast episodes:

030 Burn Bright Not Out with Donna Smith

031 The Cost of Generational Diversity with Neerja Singh

032 Communicate with Impact with Patrick Donadio

Three wonderful conversations filled with a plethora of hints and tips which could be helpful to you on your leadership journey. Together Donna and I explored the signs of burn out and what practical steps you can take to ensure you never get taken off your feet in the same way she did.  With Neerja, we dived deep into the cost of generational diversity. A wonderfully brave and honest woman, she shared with us her own deeply personal journey and why she is on a mission to ensure that others don’t experience the same loss. And finally, with Patrick we discussed the first three steps of his IMPACT process, which has been designed to help us better communicate.



“As leaders, we should be providing opportunities and opening doors for our team to walk through, to explore. The other thing is to remember that whilst we can do that, we can create the opportunities we can open doors, we can't change anybody else. We can't make our team walk through that door or take that opportunity or change. Only they can do that.”



Mel is a Consultant, Coach, Facilitator, Speaker, Podcast Host & Mum. Specialising in leadership and change management in the Higher Education sector, Mel uses her Fish Climb Trees philosophy to help individuals, teams and organisations, shift from that place of believing they can’t, to one where they know they absolutely can.

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HOSTED BY: Mel Loizou


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