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Dive Deep, Climb High

Focusing on leadership in higher education, Mel Loizou asks her guests to share what leadership means to them. The Dive Deep Climb High podcast is fun, honest, and relatable. It enables you to dive deep into your role and the leader you are.

To climb high, unleashing the power and potential of you and those around you. With inspiring stories, practical tips, and a little bit of fishiness this show will help you realise that sometimes the apparently impossible is absolutely possible. 

Dive Deep. Climb High. Can Do Leadership in a World of Can’t.


Apr 11, 2023

In this episode, we explore what it means to be curious and courageous. To not follow a plan and trust the process. Together with Eleri, we dive deep into those pivotal moments in her life when she showed great courage and discover how she realised in her early fifties she didn’t really know herself at all.  Having worked at Aberystwyth University for over twenty-five years, Eleri also reflects on this time with the knowledge she has acquired since re-training as a Creative Kinesiologist.



“For me, in my heart, what leadership means, is the ability to see the potential, of the people that you are working with. To be able to journey with them. To be able to create a vision for the future, and for them to be able to actively create it, to be active participants. And so, the leader provides the environment, they provide the tools for the people around them to be able to be the best people/person, whoever they would like to become.”



Eleri grew up in Aberystwyth, a beautiful University town situated on the coast of Cardigan Bay in Wales.  She studied Hospitality Management at the College of Food in Birmingham before starting her working life in a variety of managerial roles in hotels and restaurants in Bath and Bournemouth.

At age 24 she packed her bags and left for a year to travel and work in Australia following a promise to a college friend.  The college friend found love which resulted in a mainly solo trip.
On returning to the UK she changed direction slightly and went to work for Aberystwyth University, where she stayed for the next 25 years.  During that time, she married, had a family, and worked in a variety of different roles from Assistant Accommodation Manager to Deputy Director of Residential and Hospitality Services. 

In 2013 she was gifted the opportunity to have some coaching which led in 2015 to a fabulous 4-week trip to Egypt which turned out to be life changing.  Age 50 she took her next big life decision which coincided with her Chiron return and left her job to train as a Creative Kinesiologist which is where we find her now. 

Eleri’s Recommendations: 


Standing at the Edge: Finding Freedom Where Fear and Courage Meet Joan Halifax*

Standing at the Edge

When the Body Says No: The Cost of Hidden Stress Gabor Maté*

When the Body Says No





Kinesiology Federation website:



Mel is a Consultant, Coach, Facilitator, Speaker, Podcast Host & Mum. Specialising in leadership and change management in the Higher Education sector, Mel uses her Fish Climb Trees philosophy to help individuals, teams and organisations, shift from that place of believing they can’t, to one where they know they absolutely can. 

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