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Dive Deep, Climb High

Focusing on leadership in higher education, Mel Loizou asks her guests to share what leadership means to them. The Dive Deep Climb High podcast is fun, honest, and relatable. It enables you to dive deep into your role and the leader you are.

To climb high, unleashing the power and potential of you and those around you. With inspiring stories, practical tips, and a little bit of fishiness this show will help you realise that sometimes the apparently impossible is absolutely possible. 

Dive Deep. Climb High. Can Do Leadership in a World of Can’t.


Jul 25, 2023

In this episode, we explore how you can turn your passion into purpose. Sharing her journey, we discuss how Julie has taken her experience of working in a large multi-national organisation to help build her own business Wyseminds which supports entrepreneurs on their journey to success. Packed full of helpful insights Julie also explains and why, for her, leadership is a recipe for failure and curiosity.



“The biggest lesson of leadership I had was about trust and the space to let go. As a leader you have to ask yourself about blocks. It has to be about who am I as a leader, and have I got enough space between me and what I'm doing? That space is the biggest golden nugget that you'll have. And it gives room for everybody to be the best that they can be.”



Growing up in an entrepreneurial family, Julie was always going to cut her commercial teeth at an early age. After studying business and working in the United States, she put her knowledge to the test by joining the family company, Specsavers, and went on to work her way up through the ranks to country director, setting up and establishing the market leader in the Netherlands. After more than 20 years – and building on her extensive experience of industry and her wide-ranging expertise as a leader – Julie founded her own company, Wyseminds, to mentor fellow female entrepreneurs setting out on their own journey, helping them to find purpose and passion in whatever they do. Living and breathing the world of start-ups (and setting them on the road to success), Julie is also an author, public speaker, and podcaster.




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Mel is a Coach, Facilitator, Podcast Host & Mum. Specialising in leadership and change management in the Higher Education sector, Mel uses her Fish Climb Trees philosophy to help individuals, teams and organisations, shift from that place of believing they can’t, to one where they know they absolutely can. 

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