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Dive Deep, Climb High

Focusing on leadership in higher education, Mel Loizou asks her guests to share what leadership means to them. The Dive Deep Climb High podcast is fun, honest, and relatable. It enables you to dive deep into your role and the leader you are.

To climb high, unleashing the power and potential of you and those around you. With inspiring stories, practical tips, and a little bit of fishiness this show will help you realise that sometimes the apparently impossible is absolutely possible. 

Dive Deep. Climb High. Can Do Leadership in a World of Can’t.


Oct 4, 2022

As a clinical hypnotherapist, Caroline has spent the last twelve years helping people understand how their own thoughts and behaviours can create anxiety. With a belief that anxiety is good for us, and it can help us to grow, we dive deep into the process that Caroline uses to help people take leadership of their mind and build their mental resilience.



“Anxiety is a more comfortable way for many people to describe fear. We all have anxiety because it is part of that intrinsic survival instinct. But it’s whether you can use that anxiety to allow you to grow or whether it is controlling you and stopping you from growing. It really comes back to that leadership of the fear, as opposed to the fear telling you what you can and can't do.”



Caroline Cavanagh is an anxiety Specialist, Professional Speaker, and Author.  She helps people struggling with anxiety and stress and teaches them to increase their mental resilience which can transform their enjoyment in life. She developed the 5 step Anxiety Alchemy process that provides people with the knowledge to stop anxiety holding them back, and using it instead, to grow. She is a member of the Professional Speakers Association, and previously the Association of Professional Coaches Trainers and Consultants who awarded her the National Consultant of the Year. She has a passion for working with teenagers to help reverse the trend in teenage anxiety, working both with individuals and doing talks in schools, colleges, and universities.

Caroline’s Book: Anxiety Alchemy* Anxiety Alchemy










Mel is a Consultant, Coach, Facilitator, Speaker, Podcast Host & Mum. Specialising in leadership and change management in the Higher Education sector, Mel uses her Fish Climb Trees philosophy to help individuals, teams and organisations, shift from that place of believing they can’t, to one where they know they absolutely can.

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Check out Mel’s Book, When Fish Climb Trees*:  When Fish Climb Trees

Check out Mel’s TEDx Talk, Ditch Your Fishnets, Boost Your Resilience:




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