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The Recovered Dad Podcast


Jul 16, 2025

In this episode of the Pørn to Purpose Podcast, I’m joined by Coach Yeadon to unpack one of the most frustrating struggles men face in recovery—the feeling that no matter how hard you try, you just keep falling short. We call it the “two-rung ladder.” It’s that trap of trying to leap from addiction to total sobriety overnight… and always crashing back down.

Coach Yeadon and I talk about why white-knuckling your way through pørn addiction doesn’t work, and how to finally build a framework that does. You’ll learn about the Zero Day Doc, a powerful tool born from my own relapse, that helps you analyze exactly what went wrong—and how to bounce back stronger. If you’re tired of starting over, this one’s for you.

Top 10 Show Highlights:

[00:31] Yeadon introduces the concept of the “two-rung ladder” and why recovery often feels impossible.

[01:58] The crushing spiral of shame, guilt, and fear that keeps men stuck.

[02:58] Why willpower alone doesn’t work—and what happens when you’re just “hanging” on that top rung.

[04:33] How strength training revealed a powerful metaphor for long-term recovery.

[06:17] Matt shares how he created a step-by-step recovery system through his work with a coach.

[07:46] Introduction of the Zero Day Doc—the forensic tool for relapse analysis.

[08:43] Questions from the Zero Day Doc that uncover triggers, breakdowns, and blind spots.

[10:13] The importance of replacing guilt with investigation and self-compassion.

[12:12] Why pørn is a failed coping mechanism that “almost works”—but never truly satisfies.

[18:58] The power of community, transparency, and being witnessed in your recovery.

 

Resources & Links Mentioned:

Join the Porn to Purpose Community on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/porntopurpose

Learn More About the Liberation Bootcamp:
https://www.porntopurpose.com