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Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast

Jun 9, 2026

In today's episode, Mary sits down with Ilona Logvinova, Chief AI Officer at HSF Kramer, to talk about what it actually takes to turn a global law firm into an AI native organization. They cover why the Chief AI Officer title means something different from innovation, what it takes to build a forward deployed...


May 26, 2026

In today's episode, Mary sits down with Aine Lyons, Senior Vice President & Deputy General Counsel and Chief Strategy Officer at Workday, to talk about what it actually takes to build a modern legal department. They cover why Aine deliberately designed Workday's function without a traditional legal ops silo, what...


May 12, 2026

In today's episode, Mary sits down with Michael Pierson and Joel Ferdinand, Co-Chairmen of Pierson Ferdinand, and Christina Wojcik, their Chief Innovation Officer. Together, they break down what it actually takes to build the law firm of the future and why buying AI tools without rethinking your structure, culture,...


Apr 28, 2026

In today's episode, Mary sits down with Winston Weinberg, CEO and Co-Founder of Harvey.ai, to talk about what it actually takes to transform legal - and why buying AI tools without rethinking how your entire organization operates is the wrong place to start.

This episode is presented by Workday.

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Apr 14, 2026

In today’s episode, Mary sits down with Virginia Briggs, CEO and Managing Partner of MinterEllison, to talk about what real AI transformation actually looks like inside a law firm.

This episode is presented by Workday.

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