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Mar 14, 2023

Today's podcast features our old friend Jonathan Schanzer of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, who joins us to discuss Ron DeSantis's characterization of the war in Ukraine as a "territorial dispute" in which we should not become entangled. And then we talk about the stunning news that China has brokered a deal between Iran and Saudi Arabia and what this says about American foreign policy, in line with Schanzer's 2021 COMMENTARY article, "Diplomatic Arson in the Middle East." Give a listen.