Aug 7, 2023
Amidst the backdrop of their conservative upbringing, Jack's path of self-discovery and acceptance unfolds, revealing the profound impact of a chance encounter with a queer girl at a Catholic youth group retreat. From exploring gender through the lens of art to navigating the complexities of their identity within the adoption community, Jack's story is a testament to resilience and the power of embracing one's true self. What unique challenges await a trans and/or non-binary birth parent? How can we best support LGBTQ+ people within the adoption community in general? Stay tuned to discover the chapters of Jack's remarkable tale for the first time in an adoption-specific context on this episode of Unraveling Adoption podcast.
“I think what is difficult about words, labels, boxes, is trying to find the balance between too open and too closed. So a word has to, almost by definition, exclude something in order to have any meaning. But you also don't want people who are feeling resonance with that word to be left out, even if they don't necessarily fit the "definition" of it perfectly. And definitions are a slippery concept anyway because words really just mean how people use them.” - Jack MacCarthy
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My special guest is Jack MacCarthy
Jack MacCarthy is a compelling artist with a background rooted in theater – both as a writer and performer. Jack has always looked to push boundaries and challenge societal norms. Even before recognizing himself as transgender, his works have often explored gender, creating an impact that his personal journey would later radiate. A founder of a theater company in New York, he juggled financial struggles with a zeal for creativity and self-discovery. A decade ago, he navigated the complexities of becoming a birth parent and choosing adoption, leading to unique insights into parenthood, identity, and the intersection of both.
In this episode, you will be able to:
Illuminate the significance of LGBTQ representation (or lack thereof) within the adoption community,
Recognize the distinctive hurdles specific to trans/non-binary birth parents,
Navigate the tangled intricacies of the adoption system, and their impact on birth parents, no matter their gender
Explore support structures for trans and non-binary children and their families,
The resources mentioned in this episode are:
Visit Jack MacCarthy's website to learn more about his work as a writer, performer, and professional queer: jackmaccarthy.com
Read Jack's Kindle original, "My Boy, Their Son": https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Their-Son-Kindle-Single-ebook/dp/B07P2VXK1M
Read Jack's Buzzfeed article about his rainbow family: https://www.buzzfeed.com/mariahmaccarthy/my-rainbow-family#.ogEooLpEGV
Read Jack's YA Novel Squad: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374307509
Learn more about the Outwords Archive, an oral history project collecting the stories of LGBTQ+ elders: https://theoutwordsarchive.org/
Find support through these organizations:
PFLAG: https://pflag.org/
Pride and Joy Foundation: https://www.prideandjoyfoundation.com/
Gender Spectrum: https://genderspectrum.org/
LGBTQ+ adoption agency, Chosen Family Law Center: https://chosenfamilylawcenter.org/
Other Resources:
APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: UnravelingAdoption.com/APtitude
Other Parents Like Me - oplm.com
Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: https://heatherrosscoaching.com/
Adoptee-Therapist Directory: https://growbeyondwords.com/adoptee-therapist-directory/
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Challenges for Trans and Non-Binary Birth Parents
Trans and non-binary birth parents, like Jack, navigate unique
hurdles within the adoption system. These challenges can range from
alienation in birth parent support networks due to lack of
understanding of gender identities, all the way to systemic
socio-economic issues that contribute to the decision for adoption.
To address these concerns, it is essential to establish safe and
accepting spaces that respect diverse gender expressions, and work
towards systemic changes that reduce financial and emotional
burdens on these birth parents.
Timestamped summary of this episode:
00:01:42 - Background and Theater,
Beth asks Jack about his background and theater experience. Jack
shares that they are a writer and performer and that theater was a
place where they explored gender before exploring it in real
life.
00:05:20 - Family Acceptance,
Jack discusses their family life, which was Catholic and
conservative but supportive of artistry. They mention having a gay
uncle and a gay friend in high school, but not openly discussing
these identities.
00:07:12 - LGBTQ Community in College,
Jack talks about their college experience and how they encountered
more LGBTQ individuals, especially in the theater program. Many of
their peers have since come out as trans or non-binary.
00:12:16 - Unexpected Pregnancy and Adoption,
Jack shares that their pregnancy was a complete surprise and that
they decided on adoption due to financial circumstances and their
career aspirations. They clarify that they are pro-choice but
personally chose not to have an abortion.
00:16:24 - Jack's Choice to Place their Child for Adoption,
Jack consciously chose adoption and was not coerced. They don't
feel manipulated by the adoption agency. Their decision was based
on their life circumstances and the belief that it was the best
option at the time.
00:17:10 - Open Adoption and Relationship with the Adoptive
Parents,
Jack has an open adoption and maintains a connection with their
son, seeing him once a month. They chose the adoptive couple from a
book of profiles. Jack feels it was meant to be and has a good
relationship with them, as they have common interests and a queer
identity.
00:18:53 - Choosing the Gay Couple as Adoptive Parents,
The adoptive parents were chosen by Jack from a binder of profiles.
Jack felt a connection and a sense of fate when their profile was
dropped off just as Jack was looking at families. They have found
it to be a good choice overall.
00:21:23 - Challenges in Birth Mother and Adoptive Mother
Relationships,
Jack discusses the potential for competition and resentment between
birth mothers and adoptive mothers, especially in relation to
societal expectations of motherhood. Jack feels fortunate not to
have experienced these difficulties in their relationship with the
adoptive parents.
00:23:08 - Jack's Transition and Relationship with their Son,
Jack shares that the adoptive parents took time to adjust to Jack's
transition, but they are accepting and supportive. Their son has
also adapted well, though there have been some challenges with name
and pronouns.
00:31:19 - LGBTQ Birth Parents and Adoption,
The guest discusses the lack of consideration given to birth
parents, especially if they are LGBTQ, in the adoption process.
Queer individuals tend to romanticize the idea of adopting a child
without fully understanding the emotional toll it takes on birth
parents.
00:32:29 - Rebuilding After Relinquishing,
The guest shares her personal experience of relinquishing her son
and the emotional aftermath. She emphasizes that the process of
rebuilding oneself after such an experience is incredibly
challenging and not something she would recommend lightly.
00:33:43 - Cynicism Towards Adoption System,
Beth and Jack expresses some cynicism towards the adoption system,
particularly its tendency to take children from financially
disadvantaged parents and place them with wealthier individuals.
They suggests providing financial support to birth parents could be
a more compassionate approach.
00:34:27 - Supporting Trans and Non-binary Children,
The guest offers advice to parents, grandparents, or individuals
who may have a trans or non-binary child coming out to them. She
encourages them to view it as a gift and to do their own research
and seek support from organizations like PFLAG and the Pride and
Joy Foundation.
00:35:42 - LGBTQ Resources and Queer Family Making,
The guest recommends several LGBTQ resources, including the
Outwards Archive, Gender Spectrum, and the Chosen Family Law
Center. She also mentions her own book, Squad, and Kindle Original,
My Boy, Their Son, as additional sources of information.