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The Children's Book Podcast

Apr 1, 2021

Today I am joined by Ilyasah Shabazz, author of The Awakening of Malcolm X, written with Tiffany D. Jackson. Bryan Stevenson said “We are all more than the worst thing we’ve ever done.” And yet our criminal justice system might have us thinking otherwise. Ilyasah illuminates the humanity of inmates while also discovering the truth about who Malcolm is in this exceptional young adult novel. I myself listened to the audiobook adaptation and highly recommended it as well. There is so much in this book and in this conversation, that the best way I can think to share is, as in many cases, for me to get out of the way and let the stories be heard. If you are not yet acquainted with Ilyasah Shabazz, I hope that this discussion serves that introduction well.  Get a copy of this book and support independent bookstores (and this podcast) by visiting our BookShop Store. Support us on Patreon at or on Paypal at --- Send in a voice message: