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The Roll Down

Feb 8, 2024

On July 29, 2021, The Lenses Executive Team released a statement which announced that all Lenses offerings in the U.S. would be shut down effective immediately. From that day until now, there have been various things said about why Lenses closed, and much of what has been said is not remotely true. As the three year mark is coming up this summer, Alethea and Matthew felt it was time to let people know what really happened. And though this episode is specific to one organization, those who have endured workplace and/or spiritual abuse may resonate with the themes from these experiences. 

Hosts: Alethea Lamberson & Matthew Meledrez


Engineer: Katie Nguyen Palomares


Designer: Cameron Stingley


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