From Chaos to Operational: How Legal Teams Are Navigating the AI Maturity Arc

May 22, 2026

Hosted by David Cowen | Careers and the Business of Law

Adam Rouse (Walgreens), Ashley Christakis (CrowdStrike), John Koss (Mintz), and Major Baisden (Lineal) pick up where they left off at LegalWeek in New York - ten weeks later, the conversation is sharper. The question on the table: how do you evaluate legal technology when the problem isn't fully defined yet? The answer involves a framework, a maturity arc, and a lot of grace.

WHY THIS MATTERS?
If your legal team is still waiting for the perfect data environment before acting on AI, you're already behind. This group agrees: the chaos is the condition. The only way through it is a deliberate strategy, documented workflows, and the courage to take the first step.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Comfort with the unknown is the new baseline. The velocity of AI adoption has accelerated the FOMO - but the core evaluation process hasn't changed as much as we think.
• The three I's - Initiate, Investigate, Implement - apply to more than technology. Use them for concepts, use cases, and people, too.
• Most legal departments are somewhere between ad hoc and operational on the maturity arc. Very few are close to optimized - and that's okay.
• Stop chasing use cases. Start documenting how you actually get work done. That's the unlock for AI value.
• Data nirvana doesn't exist. Progression and discipline do. Don't wait for a perfect data ecosystem before extracting value.
• AI is the great information governance equalizer. Nothing is obscure anymore - if it's accessible, it will get indexed.
• The real AI dividend isn't just productivity. It's capability - doing things you were never able to do before.
• Know why you're doing what you're doing - and why you're not doing what you're not doing. That clarity builds organizational confidence and stronger client relationships.
  
  PEOPLE MENTIONED

• David Cowen - Host
• Adam Rouse - Sr. Counsel, eDiscovery & Director Legal Operations, Walgreens
• Ashley Christakis - Former Senior Manager, Legal Data Intelligence, CrowdStrike
• John Koss - Head of Innovation, AI, and E-Data Consulting, Mintz
• Major Baisden - CEO, Lineal Services

COMPANIES MENTIONED

• Walgreens - Large enterprise legal operations navigating AI adoption
• CrowdStrike - Corporate legal team investing in technical curiosity and R&D thinking
• Mintz - Law firm with a formalized data strategy committee and Director of Data Strategy
• Lineal - Legal services company using AI to record, document, and optimize workflows
• Legal Data Intelligence (LDI) - Community behind this series; legaldataintelligence.org

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