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ThriveMore with Roger Martin: Business, Health, & Wealth

Mar 6, 2024

Take a moment to consider, are you reading the silent signals being broadcasted by those around you? And are you aware of the messages you're sending without saying a word? Keep these questions in mind because in this episode Roger dives into the covert world of deception, lies, and body language with a world-renowned expert on the topic whose knowledge of the dark arts of spy craft will certainly leave you looking at the unspoken elements of behavior and memory in a new light.

Gavin Stone is a professional body language expert, former covert operative, and author of the book, How to Tell if Someone is Lying. He has been featured in numerous media outlets, including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and Forbes. Stone was ranked as the #9 body language expert in 2024 by Global Gurus Top 30 and is considered one of the leading authorities in deception detection globally. Gavin’s work focuses on helping people understand and use body language to improve their communication skills and build stronger relationships. 

In this riveting chat, Gavin helps listeners unravel the mysteries of human behavior while decoding the tell-tale signs of lying, the improbable (but scientifically backed) power of memory pollution, and how a simple look to the left or right can be a dead giveaway of the mind's inner workings. Gavin pulls back the curtain on "turtle necking," a limbic brain reaction that has nothing to do with fashion and everything to do with survival. The discussion then centers around body language myths and we learn a thing or two about the nuanced world of Neuro-Linguistic Programming or NLP.

So put on your detective's hat because Gavin, with his illustrious career spanning two decades in security and intelligence, is handing out free tips on spotting a liar, why our memories are not as reliable as we think they are, and the scary reality behind the incompetence he encountered in intelligence work. This is a really fun episode packed with tips and tricks to help anyone not only navigate their next run-in with deception but also their next visit to a car dealership!


Topics Include:

  • Gavin’s Unique Background in Covert Intelligence and Spying
  • Unpacking the Plasticity and Unreliability of Our Memories  
  • Breaking Down Lies of Commission, Omission, and Influence
  • The Importance of Body Language When Building a Relationship 
  • The Science and Practice of Neuro-Linguistic Programming


Gavin’s Book Recommendation:

Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones


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