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Alan was joined by his friends and OG Brain Trust members Dr. Tammy Bailey, Dr. Dawn Kulongowski and Dr. Frank Clayton to tell a story. The story, as it turns out, is about the things Al learned by reviewing 1100+ episodes (and 9+ years) of podcasts! Some of the lessons involved podcasting in general, but most of the lessons are incredibly profound and applicable to dentistry and life! You guys are going to love this episode and the conversation we have! Some of the lessons Al learned:

  • Ask for help
  • Everyone is selling something
  • We focused probably more on clinical stuff than business stuff…this is my blind spot, not Jason’s
  • In the beginning we didn’t know what we were doing. But we did it anyway. And it turned out really well.
  • Jason and I had great chemistry. Having good chemistry is important.
  • 1000 of anything is a LOT
  • Any given day 750 or more of those 1100 episodes are downloaded at least once
  • Segments with intros are really fun to listen to, but a LOT of work
  • There is a huge difference between a weekly show and multiple times per week 
  • The older episodes have an authenticity that's hard to replicate. I think that's because this community (podcast/social media friends) didn't know each other as well then as we do now.
  • Dentists want a simple formula for marketing (and everything else) but the goal posts are always changing.
  • We were WAY more worried about websites and SEO back in 2014-2015.
  • "Doing the work" is tedious, unglamorous and not fun. It's important, though.

I learned a lot in June. Mostly I learned that it's the listeners that make this work. So I thank you.

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