Barb Schmidt is creator of the non-profit Peaceful Mind, Peaceful Life which acts as an inspiring online resource and rapidly growing community. Barb is also the author of the recently published book, The Practice: Simple Tools for Managing Stress, Finding Inner Peace, and Uncovering Happiness.

In this episode, Brandon and Dalien talk with Pablo Miller, a shamanic facilitator who has worked with sacred plant medicines for over 20 years, as he clears up the confusion between hallucinogenic drugs and natural "entheogens". They also discuss the rapid personal growth that plant medicines can promote, as well as details of some of Pablo's own profound spiritual experiences using the plant medicine Ayahuasca.