Billy Bob Thornton is in a class by himself. If you haven’t seen Season 1 of his new show Landman on Paramount Plus, you’re missing out. It’s a perfect follow-up to his earlier seriesGoliath and his unforgettable turn on the first season of Fargo. Leonard and Jessie are longtime fans and delight in talking to him about finding his place in Hollywood, working with the Coen Brothers, playing the President of the United States in Love, Actually, and much, much more. This 2017 conversation doesn’t cover his most recent work but it’s a pleasure to listen to.

On the heels of a terrific new Apple+ TV series, BAD MONKEY (which will film its second season in the near future), let’s revisit our last chat with him, recorded in front of a live audience at Fantastic Fest in Austin, Texas in September of 2017. Vince was at the festival with his then-brand-new movie Brawl in Cell Block 99, but had no hesitation in reviewing his career and the film that launched it, Swingers.

Doug Jones’s face is often hidden behind elaborate makeup, yet somehow, through his eyes and body language he always create memorable characters. A favorite of filmmaker Guillermo Del Toro, he was the sea creature inThe Shape of Water and had key roles in Hellboy, Hellboy II: The Golden Army, and Pan’s Labyrinth. He spent five seasons on Star Trek: Discovery and is currently having a ball making the last season of What We Do in the Shadows. He is also proud of Nosferatu: A Symphony of Horror, now streaming and available on Blu-ray—and not to be confused with the other current remake of the German silent classic. Doug is as nice as he is talented, and Leonard and Jessie are delighted to have him on the podcast.