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The Dismantling Doctrine Podcast


Are you ready to dismantle destructive doctrines?

The host of the Dismantling Doctrine Podcast, Dr Clint Heacock, warns about the danger of cult psychology and tactics, harmful religion, religious trauma syndrome, and the threat posed by the Christian Right and dominion theology.

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Jul 30, 2025

Recently I reconnected with returning guest Stephen Mather, former Jehovah's Witness and co-host of the now-defunct Cult Hackers Podcast.

As an organizational psychologist, and former JW, Stephen is uniquely positioned to inform listeners on the eight markers of cults identified by Dr Robert Jay Lifton in his book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism.

Lifton's eight markers are not only time-honored in describing the various tactics used by cults and high-control groups, in addition he provides a helpful extra bit: the psychological effects of each one on the individual or follower. Thus, Stephen and I go through all eight in turn, discuss how they were applied in our various religious experiences, and talk about the psychological effects also.

Concluding the episode, we focus on recovery after leaving religion or a high-control group, offering up helpful tips and experience gained not only in our own lives, but that of others from whom we've found helpful advice.

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